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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:27 am Post subject:

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Some things:

1) This is the MGS2 Substance, but the start menu screen is red not blue. Was this always that way if you dont have completed save game?

Yes.

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2) Is it just me or was the lip synch in MGS3 better before? Could be imagining this.

I didn't notice a difference.

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3) Did they actually fix the superwidescreen thing? The letterbox option is really distracting with a huge black bar underneath instead of an actual letterbox effect...

Well it always had the huge black bar underneath. "Super-Widescreen" was after all just an excuse so they could leave the bars the way they were in the originals and put less effort in it by simply widening the image. Thanks to fan pressure, they included a proper full screen option after all...

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4) Where is the skateboarding? And why are the O and X buttons not Japan standard any more? Why does the Snake Eater song not play before the start menu now? Why is the credits text during the Hudson River scene green not white? Definitive my ass.

There is no skateboarding, probably because they couldn't be arsed to port two engines over.
The Snake Eater song only plays before the start menu once you've already passed the point where it plays in-game (after Virtuous Mission). It's always been like that iirc.
The credits text in the Hudson River scene was always green.

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:51 am Post subject:

Tetsujin wrote:

Richter wrote:

Some things:

1) This is the MGS2 Substance, but the start menu screen is red not blue. Was this always that way if you dont have completed save game?

Yes.

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4) Why does the Snake Eater song not play before the start menu now? Why is the credits text during the Hudson River scene green not white? Definitive my ass.

The Snake Eater song only plays before the start menu once you've already passed the point where it plays in-game (after Virtuous Mission). It's always been like that iirc.
The credits text in the Hudson River scene was always green.

As I have been playing MGS2 and MGS3 (original ones) for the past few days, I can consent all of this. PAL region, btw.

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I don't think we ever got to arguing about Guns of the Patriots being art or not. We're still at "does it suck or not?"

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject:

Well, yes this is the PAL thread what what.

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The credits text in the Hudson River scene was always green.

Really? Looks very white for me.

Other horrible but small thing - the survival menu videos showing you heal burns have terrible video artifacts in them that I saw earlier but thought may be a screen capture issue. It generally runs better without aliasing, framerate or screen tear problems I guess.

Currently trying out Peace Walker for the first time. It seems fun for now but I dont like the cheap feel it has, I guess due to the portable format it came from. Boss fights have an annoying difficulty with the whole weapon select system too. The whole experience is distracting. It smells funny. I think it's the stink of Portable Ops.....

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject:

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Well, yes this is the PAL thread what what.

Oh, right. My bad.

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I don't think we ever got to arguing about Guns of the Patriots being art or not. We're still at "does it suck or not?"

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject:

Richter wrote:

Some things:

1) This is the MGS2 Substance, but the start menu screen is red not blue. Was this always that way if you dont have completed save game?

2) Is it just me or was the lip synch in MGS3 better before? Could be imagining this.

3) Did they actually fix the superwidescreen thing? The letterbox option is really distracting with a huge black bar underneath instead of an actual letterbox effect...

4) Where is the skateboarding? And why are the O and X buttons not Japan standard any more? Why does the Snake Eater song not play before the start menu now? Why is the credits text during the Hudson River scene green not white? Definitive my ass.

1) Actually, the title screen reads "Sons of Liberty" instead of substance. I like it better this way. It is more consistent with the plot. I never understood where that "substance" shit got from, anyway.

2) Snake eater's facial animations were made with the japanese voices in mind (MGS4 was the frist one to redo the face animations to fit with the american dub), so if it feels like it doesn't fit with the american dubbing it is because, well, it doesn't. I too haven't noticed any difference with the original.

3) Yes, that's just how "superwidescreen" works. Better not to use it and fill the entire screen with the original frame instead.

4) I believe the skateboarding game was part of Evolution Skateboarding, which is why it isn't included. Same case scenario as Snake vs Monkey.

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject:

Terminento wrote:

Substance comes from the Joy Division and New Order albums "Substance."
Those are two of Kojima's favorite bands.
Plus it means the games have more substance, what with the extra content.

As for the plot, the Title in the intro says "Sons of Liberty" in either version.

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject:

There is no Snake vs Monkey or Skateboarding (skate boarding was actually a demo for a konami skating game, which was cancelled) because Sony owns the rights to these games, and Microsoft cannot port them. Microsoft made a contract, and if they couldn't have it, neither could Sony.

Also, it was called substance because he said in an interview he had complaints about not enough content for the game. So he said they would re-launch it, adding a bit more "substance" to it.

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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject:

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There is no Snake vs Monkey or Skateboarding (skate boarding was actually a demo for a konami skating game, which was cancelled)

Oh no, it wasn't cancelled. No one liked it, thought.

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Also, it was called substance because he said in an interview he had complaints about not enough content for the game. So he said they would re-launch it, adding a bit more "substance" to it.

I just said the same thing.

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:29 am Post subject:

Jonathan wrote:

Flamecommando36 wrote:

There is no Snake vs Monkey or Skateboarding (skate boarding was actually a demo for a konami skating game, which was cancelled)

Oh no, it wasn't cancelled. No one liked it, though.

I kinda did. Sad

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:45 am Post subject:

Nitroid wrote:

Jonathan wrote:

Flamecommando36 wrote:

There is no Snake vs Monkey or Skateboarding (skate boarding was actually a demo for a konami skating game, which was cancelled)

Oh no, it wasn't cancelled. No one liked it, though.

I kinda did. Sad

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:14 am Post subject:

I actually thought it looked like a good game.
Perhaps I'll give it a shot.

It kinda got overshadowed by, oh I don't know, TONY HAWKS OMFG EXTREME PRO SKATEBOARDIN' ACTION.

Ever so slightly...

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:55 am Post subject:

Fuck microsoft for making the PS3 version lack content!

anyhoo i liked it too, it was basically Tony Hawk 2 with a Metal Gear skin over it. awesome

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:32 am Post subject:

Tech Analysis: Metal Gear Solid Remastered:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-metal-gear-remastered

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject:

Pretty interesting videos. I didn't notice how much of a change there was with Peace Walker until I saw it.

On a sidenote, I tried a Logitech Rumblepad (which is basically a rumble Dual Action) with Peace Walker on the PS3, and, yes, it doesn't work on MGS2 or 3, but it works like a charm on peacewalker (no vibration, though).

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:32 am Post subject:

Okay okay, a more annoying issue - yesteday I went through the Tanker chapter and took a few of the usual photos, Olga, posters whatever. Loaded my save in the Ray hanger and they are all missing, including the first one of Gurlukovich.....

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