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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:34 pm    Post subject:  

Enter the Matrix was a massive dissapointment, considering Max Payne already did that stuff, they just could have easily copied it. It even had a kung-fu mod you could download. Never mind. The Animatrix is okay, but I found the episodes to be hit and miss: the best ones were the history of the machines.

As the for the problems in the sequels: where the original was slick, well written and well paced, making good use of Keanu's limited range and having the action put into at the right intervals, the sequels are packed with totally useless characters, useless dialogue and illogical reasoning. Machines are supposed to think mechanically - so why waste hundreds of sentinels and not just gas the fucking city? That's a machine thinking. Then again Zion is a dump full of assholes, and I dont care if they destroy it or not. 30 minutes of council meetings and cliche military grumbling? Wat. Get a better editor in here and fix this stuff. The pacing is all over the place and the action is good but lacks the impact of when the Agents were a serious threat. It's all about execution not content - Anyone expecting Neo to upper cut the machine god and save the day isn't paying attention.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:09 pm    Post subject:  

Enter the Matrix was cool only if you had ever seen Matrix Reloaded, and even then it wasn't that good.

Path of Neo was an improvement, but what bothers me the most isn't the controls (you get used to their bugginess after awile) but the visuals. On normal gameplay they're OK, but fuck, they look horrible whenever they want to do a close up. The only character that looks fairly decent is Morpheus. Everyone else, including Trinity who's supposed to be fucking hot, looks like some kind of badly done clay toy.

Still, it does get the feel of being a badass with all the different powers and fighting moves.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject:  

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By the way Orwellian, I heavily recommend watching Animatrix too. Personally I like it much more than the main trilogy.


Would you believe I watched the whole thing without knowing what it was or caring about The Matrix? Just stumbled across it on TV one day and couldn't look away. It was really engrossing.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject:  

The Animatrix was badass.

I remember playing Enter the Matrix back in the day! Rented that shit from Hollywood video on PS2. Shit was awesome! I remember me and my friends, being middle school kids, came buckets because "OMGGG, NIOBE KISSES A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!1" I want to play it again now though because I'm pretty fucking sure it will not be nearly as good as I remember, especially after reading the previous posts on it.

I never actually played Path of Neo. I should pick it up sometime.

Could someone please make a new, really fucking awesome Matrix game for current gen? I'd really like that.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:00 am    Post subject:  

So with all this said, I wonder how the fourth Matrix movie will be? I mean the fact they talkin with Cameron about using similar cameras to film it in 3D is nuts.

Oh and with Morpheus dead....that should be interesting.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject:  

Waitwaitwait... what?

What the fuck am I reading?

Another Matrix movie?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject:  

Yes, a fourth. And it will be in 3D JUST FOR YOU.

It's true.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:29 am    Post subject:  

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Machines are supposed to think mechanically - so why waste hundreds of sentinels and not just gas the fucking city? That's a machine thinking


1. Machines don't think, much less "think mechanically'
2. Although computer programs use logic, that logic is not necessarily any good

With that said, you're right, because the internal logic of the movie dictates that these machines DO think, and they they DO use good logic. So seeing them use shit logic that even the stupidest humans would see flaws in, is terrible.

I say the #1 problem of the series is that the two sequels were made after 9/11, which means they weren't allowed to preach anti-establishment and shoot cops in the face for fun

edit: oh and fly helicpters into buildings and make it so awesome

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:03 am    Post subject:  

Even if they did create a new Matrix film, would they continue from the canon of the Matrix MMO? I never played it, or knew anyone who played it, but I heard that some weird shit happened in it (other than Morpheus dying).

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Machines are supposed to think mechanically - so why waste hundreds of sentinels and not just gas the fucking city? That's a machine thinking


1. Machines don't think, much less "think mechanically'
2. Although computer programs use logic, that logic is not necessarily any good

With that said, you're right, because the internal logic of the movie dictates that these machines DO think, and they they DO use good logic. So seeing them use shit logic that even the stupidest humans would see flaws in, is terrible.

I say the #1 problem of the series is that the two sequels were made after 9/11, which means they weren't allowed to preach anti-establishment and shoot cops in the face for fun

edit: oh and fly helicpters into buildings and make it so awesome


Well Morpheus says something like "A sentinel for every man, woman, and child in Zion. That sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me". No Morpheus, it really doesnt. Of course this is just his opinion not a fact on how the machines are planning to attack. As for the post 9/11 thing, well they do explode a power station and kill the security that hasnt managed to run a mile or two away. But it does feel like the "fuck the system" sentiments are weakened now Smith is just a crazy virus, and the other antagonists are silly ghosts and whatever else.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject:  

I've read shit about the Matrix MMO story, and it's just mad. Morpheus apparently goes berserk when the machines don't hand him Neo's body and goes on exploding shit.

BTW there's something I never found out in the Matrix: how did Morpheus "know" that Neo was The One? I mean, he couldn't have just randomly picked a guy who felt like dreams were too real to be dreams. There must have been something special in him. What was it?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:37 am    Post subject:  

Only thing about that was The Oracle would say that he would find the one. Maybe he just got lucky or something.

Then again he wasn't the One to begin with but had to become the one but you know what I mean.

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