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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject:  

No. You seem like a girl who keeps her promises. Cool

Okay I'll mark it on my calendar "July 3rd: ride and never look back"
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:13 am    Post subject:  

It's nice to at least be your word, or try my best. I don't like to just say things in moments or to pacify a messy situation. I've been on the other end of that though. It's not a nice feeling. Those empty words are the worst..

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject:  

Sometimes not saying anything at all it's the right thing to do. A simple hug can do wonders.
Or, in some cases being straightforward and telling things that are hard to hear have that "wake up!" effect on people.

The way I see it, real friends aren't the ones that only pats your back and says "good job kid, carry on". A friend also tells us how things really are if the moment arises, but most people take it the wrong way.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:32 am    Post subject:  

I don't mind what people say to me as much as I have a problem believing them. I once had a friend who would tell me things, and by a week or even days later...either take them all away, or change them all up. And so, I most don't believe a person like that which will anger them in return... but I dont like being lied to to smooth things over, which with him happened alot.

Each time I try to get over the trust issue, I meet another guy who should have never been trusted and who broke my heart. I dont know when someone is being that honest. I don't know if I'll ever know.
Since I've not gotten too many pats on the back, to get one seems fake to me too.

I've not met many sincere people in my time.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject:  

A lie only accomplishes so much. Eventually everything falls apart .

Regarding trust..well I guess the trick is to dose the amount of trust given. Some good natured people tend to give all they have, everytime they meet someone new they act like it will last forever.

I've met people like that and it can be their greatest gift, but also their greatest weakness.
In a sense that they suffer on a deeper level when things go sour, disappointment sets in and sometimes it can leave them with psychological scars.

We should face people with a certain degree of trust, and always on the lookout for something up their sleeve. this applies to both man a women, either in a social or romantic context.

In some cases even those who look eager to please should be kept at bay. There's no set formula to analyze one's intentions.

People too are like a box of chocolate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject:  

The older I get, the more I view people as a box of chocolates..cream centers..some instantly horrible, but for some reason I try to aquire a taste for such 'shit.' This is a bad idea indeed. But I'm learning. Smile

If you are coconut, just forget it. lol

Is that what you mean? or well, its how I took it. Wink


Ya know the saying.."never trust someone who says "trust me?" that is SO TRUE. That just happened to me this past week. There is some truth to that saying.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject:  

Hahah well you deepened my metaphor but I understand what you're getting at Wink

I said that box of chocolates line because you never know what you're going to get. Cool

And no, you can't trust a people who says "trust me". Look what happened when Aladdin said that to Jasmine. He blew his cover and his lie was exposed.

And I can't believe I'm quoting Aladdin on a serious conversation scratch


I have some kind of..... pet peeve If you can say that.

Have you ever said something to someone, and they reply something along the lines of " yes we should do that someday".
It always strikes me as a "polite" way of saying "no I'll pass". When I hear this I definitely know I shouldn't be expecting any call soon.

If people are willing to get things done they take initiative, I've had so many plans lined up with some friends but people just chicken out or just don't want to for a reason or another. Still I won't give up on planning that roadtrip.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject:  

I suppose much is lived and much is learned. Or at least I hope its that way.

Sometimes people make plans with good intentions, but you're right..maybe it is more a polite way to say what they are really feeling. I remember when I was 4 and in pre school, and I had a friend and her mom said maybe one day I can swim in their pool! And she looked at my mom and said.."do you think that sounds okay?" and my mom said "sure, just let her know!' I walked away excited and my mom said..."julia, don't get excited... some people say things and they don't follow through, lets just see what happens." She never did call, and I remember being so disappointed..but it must have meant so much to me because I remember it still. I also remember my mom telling my friends to come over, or yes..we are going to the movies, pick you up at 2 and my mom pulling through. Not everyone is so much about their word.

The most I break a plan is becaue I'm sick or I'm scheduled to work.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject:  

Your mother saw things how they were, her experience came into play

Yes not everyone does it on purpose, but failed expectations can be really disappointing.
Just have to to learn how to deal with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject:  

I still want to go swimming! ...just not with her anymore... Laughing

Do you swim? I love to swim in the ocean. Kinda is a bit scary when you step on a crab though, that can hurt. But you if never rode in a wave, I just don't know what to say!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject:  

Swimming! My greatest weakness!

Unfortunately I'm not that good as I should be I'm afraid, but that didn't stop me from bodyboarding and skimming. Now that I think of it I haven't gone to the beach in a while...

When I was a kid I used to be afraid of what was under the water, specially what we call Medusas ( they used to hang around in large number at this spanish beach I used to go).
And then, to make things worse, I saw Jaws....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject:  

Julia wrote:
I don't mind what people say to me as much as I have a problem believing them. I once had a friend who would tell me things, and by a week or even days later...either take them all away, or change them all up. And so, I most don't believe a person like that which will anger them in return... but I dont like being lied to to smooth things over, which with him happened alot.

Each time I try to get over the trust issue, I meet another guy who should have never been trusted and who broke my heart. I dont know when someone is being that honest. I don't know if I'll ever know.
Since I've not gotten too many pats on the back, to get one seems fake to me too.

I've not met many sincere people in my time.


I can sort of understand this. I didn't exactly grow up with the most encouraging people. People always gave me a hard time for being a "nerd" when growing up, and at one point I feel like I started being hard on myself.

So while I don't have a low opinion of myself, I don't quite exactly think that highly either. For the longest time I didn't have any real friends, so when I did, it took me a while to believe some of the praise and encouragement they gave me. It seems kind of dumb now. While I do trust that they themselves probably believe what they tell me, I'm not so sure I do for myself.'

Even then, sometimes I feel they're not being completely honest.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject:  

Its nice to know Im not the only one who feels such things. I will say it didnt help me to keep the company of someone who told me he cared of my well being, only to manipulate my good nature. It has brought me down some, but I know it was the aftermath of such company and for too long. The funny thing is, I knew this, but hung around more than I wanted to because he mentioned the word 'rejection' to me some time back, and I felt bad of that. But now my reward for staying is being kicked to the curb, left with his lies and tall tales, and although I see he is still around and very much alive..Im dead to him now.

It makes good sense if I can remember that the love a friend can give me isnt always for my best interest, but I wish I did things differently, because now I'm just hurt and there is alot I dont understand. All I know is when I said I would stay, I meant it.

Not everyone is the honesty they claim to be. With all of our accomplishments, we can still feel very much alone if those we share them with care nothing of us.
Im sure you are a great person. Its just that we will meet some people who arent so nice. I suppose during those times, is when we should remember who we are, and what they are about. Its usually they are about not much of anything.

@Lyonardo, I was afraid of water too. When I was little I went to swimming lessons and cried thru each one. My aunt has an inground pool, my mom wanted me to be okay around that pool. So off I went crying, but I did eventually learn. Its nice to be able to swim and float around, but the ocean is so much better. But our waves are so small at times, and especially compared to hawaii. But yeah, to step on squishey things and claws that bite you only add to the excitement of the unknown! Or, you can always just lay on a board and never touch bottom!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject:  

NeoHaven, kids say the darndest things to each other and can be quite cruel, even If they're not aware of it.

Sometimes people say something to you when your mind is still in that sponge phase and one can actually take it as an undeniable truth, and most cases it could become a major psychological situation when you grow up.
These kind of things that, for better or worse shape your personality and make you self conscious.

It's hard to shake off a wrong notion about yourself when your brain has sunken that ideia deep. It can take years to cast it aside.

@Julia That's why I admire James Cameron, that guy explores the depths of the ocean like he owns the place. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject:  

That's awful. It's better that things are that way now, because anyone who can throw away friendship with someone so nice like that is pretty dumb. I just don't understand how people can be like that. I wish most people would be like that, but it seems hard to really find good friends.

Sometimes I feel like I'm being silly with my trust issues. I can't help it though because they're the first people I've opened up to emotionally. What makes it worse is that I feel like I bothered them too much about some of my personal issues and even though they say I didn't, in a way, I can tell that they've distanced themselves from me a bit. Sometimes I do think that their friendship isn't exactly the best thing for me and maybe a little distance is for the best.

Yeah, I know, but even through all that's happened I want to trust them. I want to believe that they're honest or maybe that's just me being naive. I do have to remind myself that I don't really need them, but it sucks being alone, so I can't help it.

@Lyonardo After making these friends, I sorta assumed that based on what they've said of me. I guess it's part of the reason why I don't want to alienate my only friends with my trust issues.
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