B1) RELEVANCY OF POST
A conversation changes topic naturally. This is acceptable as long as the switch is not dramatic and random. Every post made within a topic must be clearly connected to a previous post within the topic.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject:
Re: What's wrong with 'monolithic' threads?
Alex =) wrote:
What's wrong with 'monolithic' threads?
Whereas a lot of what's within such a thread could be made into multiple threads which, on their own, can compete with one and another and also stray from the original topic, they stay put because anybody can make a new response while staying true to the rather broad topic. If you want to talk about how much you love, hate, etc something, then make a new thread about it.
Robert.V wrote:
Right, i'm sure Ravi changing his mind all of a sudden had nothing to do with your fucking whinning. You always wanted those threads gone and more then once suggested locking them to Ravi on the forum ...I find it hard to believe you hadn't any input into it.
Nope.
I'm not even going to look into all of the posts I made ridiculing such threads for months. I'll just go by Dr. Eat Da Poo Poo and argue that you're racist for thinking that it has to be a white man's idea, not my own!
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject:
Some of my favorite threads were closed too, such as the game and movies thread. However the fact is, I believe Ravi closed these for consistency. It wouldn't be fair to leave all of these open under the new rules and then some new member pops along and creates one, then gets warned because it was after the cut-off date.
In the threads he even leaves the option to make a new one about your movie of choice. Really, the only downside I could see to shutting them is a bunch of threads whenever new games are released or something. Give the rules a bit of a chance and see where they go. While I didn't quite understand Jiko's analysis, cake does taste better when you finish making it or whatever it was.
The truth of the matter is, the Soup was slowly beginning to die from eating itself alive with all the drama and battling. These new rules are set in place to attempt to prevent that. Even though it's a conversation about movies or games, if you go back through the posts you'll find a few battles breaking out due to drama. It's partly to make it easier for mods to respond to issues and partly due to issues arising from user created drama in my opinion.
Support the rules and if you don't agree with them take it up with Ravi. But don't take it out on Econs or others. Ravi's been running the place since 2003, I'm pretty sure nobody is capable of influencing him... Well... Besides Crystal but we know why that is. It's not fair to single out Econs just because he said he didn't like certain threads. If we were to do that I'm sure we'd have to single out several people for not liking at least ONE of the monolithic threads, myself included.
It's just better not to place blame and let it roll, see where it takes us. Though I agree with Alex, I'm going to miss some of those threads.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject:
SolidSnarf86 wrote:
The truth of the matter is, the Soup was slowly beginning to die from eating itself alive with all the drama and battling.
Especially the shit slung in soup chat. Some people who claim they hate the drama and the battles are the same people who keep the fire burning. Really. Some members here have balls to preach the shit they do. And IMO, thats why the battles and drama keep up...nobody STFU of it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject:
SolidSnarf86 wrote:
It wouldn't be fair to leave all of these open under the new rules and then some new member pops along and creates one, then gets warned because it was after the cut-off date.
Nobody is going to get a warning for creating monolithic threads. It's a C-rank rule.
Julia wrote:
Especially the shit slung in soup chat. Some people who claim they hate the drama and the battles are the same people who keep the fire burning. Really. Some members here have balls to preach the shit they do. And IMO, thats why the battles and drama keep up...nobody STFU of it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject:
Which also brought a question to my own thoughts. The rule of privacy.
Since the soup chat place is public, is that not considered private? What if someone logs the chat? And just talks of it on the forum?
To me, nothing is private. Anywhere. So I guess if it's off the forum, you cant bring it here, but soup chat is on the forum...does one still need permission to post something said in the chat? or make a thread of something said in the chat?
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject:
Julia wrote:
Since the soup chat place is public, is that not concidered private?
Rule A2 is not a manner of distinguising private or public entitied outside of The 'Soup. It's to stop ANY information that is not available HERE to be posted here.
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A2) PRIVACY PROTECTION
Any information about another member that has not been made public here and given consent to be made public here cannot be posted anywhere on this site. IF SOMEONE HAS POSTED YOUR PRIVATE INFORMATION, PM ANY MOD! PM ALL MODS AT ONCE FOR BEST RESULTS!
So yes, posting chat logs can be a violation of this rule much like how posting someone's last name, which might be available through their public social networking profile, would be a violation of this rule.
Julia wrote:
but soup chat is on the forum...
No it's not. We don't host any chats. Even the only official chat (the IRC chat) is hosted on another website. Others are creating by members of this site.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject:
As far as I'm aware in main Soup Chat sessions there's usually nobody there. If we're talking about SNARF.TV or Stickam chats. Though I understand we try to keep standard forum rules during the events. As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any slinging in the events I've been a part of.
To be fair though I haven't been to some of the chats so I'm not aware of evidence or instances that take place in all of them.
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Which also brought a question to my own thoughts. The rule of privacy.
Since the soup chat place is public, is that not considered private? What if someone logs the chat? And just talks of it on the forum?
To me, nothing is private. Anywhere. So I guess if it's off the forum, you cant bring it here, but soup chat is on the forum...does one still need permission to post something said in the chat? or make a thread of something said in the chat?
Even so however, most of those side events are not connected to The Snake Soup or the forums so sanctioning them with the rules is more a courtesy then a requirement, except for the main Soup Chat.
The rules of privacy are if information has not been made public. The chats and such as far as I am concerned, and I'm sure Ravi would agree are not part of the forum. So to post such would need consent or to have been posted here. I believe there is a rule for consent in the new rule list.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject:
Julia wrote:
So, you consider Soup chat private, even though anyone here can log on?
Much like how anyone here can start an account at another Metal Gear fansite and start posting, yes.
Julia wrote:
Making info very much available here if you are in that chat.
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
Julia wrote:
EDIT:yeah, they are done by members here, but its an open invite, unlike an msn convo.
Irrelevant. Like I said, what's considered "private" is what is not publicly on this site. Someone could have a blog and you cannot mention it or talk about it here unless they have already posted it here.
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